Thank you to Rev. Todd Wilken for talking with me about infertility, IVF, and embryo testing this afternoon on Issues, Etc.
You can listen to the interview here.
Thank you to Rev. Todd Wilken for talking with me about infertility, IVF, and embryo testing this afternoon on Issues, Etc.
You can listen to the interview here.
Thank you to Andy Bates and KFUO’s His Time show for interviewing Dr. Jeff Gibbs and me this morning on the upcoming Infertility Ethics Symposium at Concordia Seminary in St. Louis.
You can listen to the interview here.
Reporter Online also recently published a helpful article which explains why the LCMS Life Ministry and the Concordia Seminary Life Team are co-sponsoring this important and timely event.
You can read the article here.
Calling all LCMS pastors, seminarians, commissioned ministers, deaconesses, and parish nurses!
We certainly live in a “brave new world,” especially when it comes to infertility medicine.
In vitro fertilization, embryo adoption and assisted reproductive technologies…What is the Church to do? How can the Church steer congregations through the ethically murky waters of infertility medicine? What comfort can we as the Church offer to those who suffer from infertility and miscarriages?
LCMS Life Ministry and the Concordia Seminary Life Team are helping start the conversation by sponsoring an Infertility Ethics Symposium for pastors, seminarians, commissioned ministers, deaconesses, and parish nurses on Saturday, November 8, at Concordia Seminary in St. Louis. Won’t you please join us?
Admittance is free.
Contact LCMS Life Ministry at 314-996-1711 or tracy.quaethem@lcms.org for more info as it becomes available.
Symposium Schedule:
8:30 a.m. – Opening Worship – Rev. William Weedon (Homily: Prof. John Pless)
9:00 a.m. – “Be Fruitful and Multiply: When It Doesn’t Work” – Rev. William Cwirla
10:00 a.m. – coffee break
10:30 a.m. – “Survey of Reproductive Counseling Practices in the Lutheran Church” – Rev. Dr. Kevin E. Voss
11:30 a.m. – “IVF: from Created to Creator” – Rev. Dr. James Lamb
12:30 p.m. – lunch
1:45 p.m. – “Embryo Adoption: Helping or Hurting My Neighbor?” – Rev. Dr. Robert W. Weise
2:45 p.m. – “Pastoral Care for Those Experiencing Infertility” – Rev. Christopher Esget
3:45 p.m. – break
4:00 p.m. – “The LCMS and Infertility Ethics” – Rev. Peter Brock
5:00 p.m. – Closing Worship – Rev. William Weedon (Homily: Dr. Jeff Gibbs)
5:30 p.m. – Gemütlichkeit
Technology will always move faster than the Church. The infertility medicine industry may insist on creating and freezing embryonic children, but that does not automatically mean the Church should be bullied into adopting and implanting them. She should wait until she can with full, Scriptural confidence say that surrogacy in such a situation is pleasing to God and serves the best interest of her neighbors – all of them, including the statistically doomed 65%.
At the same time, the Church should not be a Levite and cross on the far side of the street from those abandoned to die in the ditch. She should speak on this issue. She should pray for these precious children, advocate for their legal rights, work to stop the creation and freezing of more children outside of the marriage bed in the procedure of IVF, and encourage parents to rescue their children from the freezer.
Help us, Lord God, and save us from our sins, for Jesus’ sake. “Cast us not away from Thy presence, and take not Thy Spirit from us.” Amen.
Question Submitted: I am disappointed in your take on embryo adoption and IVF. Are you aware that many embryos never implant in nature? With normal, fertile people? So why, then, would you not want to give the frozen embryos (or snowflakes, as they’re often called) a chance at making it? I am currently 31 weeks pregnant through the miracle that is embryo adoption. We went through a home study and our clinic had strict requirements for health and eligibility. Why are you against having these babies thawed and given a chance at life outside the freezer?
A note to our readers: This is a response from both me and Katie. It is impossible for us to fully tackle the subject of embryonic adoption in one post let alone answer these complex questions in a paragraph or two. Out of a desire to honor those who submit questions we are forced to address these issues in segments, when ideally they should be dealt with as a whole and more thoroughly explained. Thus I would ask you to please read this post in its entirety to ensure that you are not taking comments out of context or focusing on only a portion of the whole message.
This question includes two assumptions, which I’d like to address separately.
Assumption#1: The risk of natural miscarriage is the same risk that occurs in the frozen embryo transfer (FET).
The end result of both miscarriage and FET is the same, it’s true: children die. But the situations are different in that a miscarriage is something that naturally occurs and is outside the hands of the parents. It is the result of sin being in the world as the result of the fall of Adam and Eve. The parents did not cause this death, nor could they have avoided it in most cases. “The Lord gives and the Lord takes away. Blessed be the name of the Lord” (Job 1:21).
The deaths that occur as a result of an attempted FET are explainable and are unnatural, meaning that they are the direct result of human decisions and actions–the responsible parties being the parents who chose to freeze them in the first place. And there’s just no avoiding the fact that, although this is not the desired outcome, the decision made by others to thaw these children and attempt implantation will lead to a hastened death for most of them. One party is choosing to neglect the child by placing him in a situation that will almost certainly lead to his premature death, and the other party makes the choice to risk the lives of many children so that one or more may possibly have the opportunity to live. The second party is attempting to do the right thing by making a rescue, but participating in this procedure is still a serious and sobering matter.
When a couple conceives a child, they have every reason to hope and believe that this child will grow normally and come to be delivered safely, even though sometimes this does not happen. When a couple participates in an embryo adoption, they should know ahead of time that most* of the children removed from the liquid nitrogen and subjected to an attempted implantation will die as a result. Again, the adoptive parents are not the cause of these deaths, but the deaths are still resulting because the children were placed in the hostile environment by human hands. Therefore, regardless of the intentions of the adoptive parents, there are so many differences between these two types of fetal deaths that I do not believe the two situations can be considered parallel.
Assumption #2: That we here at HRTB are against giving frozen children a chance at life.
Before I talk about what we may or may not be against, let me state clearly what we are for:
1. Loving the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind (Matt. 22:37).
2. Loving your neighbor as yourself (Matt. 22:39).
These principles, given by Christ Himself as the sum of all the commandments, are what guide our discussions, our questions, and our concerns. They motivate us to look for the truth in all these perplexing and controversial situations, no matter how difficult that truth may be to hear. We want to eliminate as much of the gray areas as possible so that our precious barren brothers and sisters in Christ may be equipped to traverse this rocky road carefully, without endangering others along the way and without harming their blessed unions with each other or misinforming their consciences. We want people to think about and discuss the hard questions first–then choose action, rather than the other way around. Our words of caution are uttered because of our gratitude to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for His great sacrifice on our behalf, which frees us to live lives of faithfulness to Him, lives that bring glory to Him and, we pray, loving service to our neighbors, not ourselves. When presented with ethical decisions, we want to do whatever we can to ensure that our decisions will not negatively affect our relationship with God by tempting us to look elsewhere for our joy and peace. Rev. Heath R. Curtis summed up this concept well in a recent Gottesdienst article:
The job of the Church is faithfulness. Seeking any other goal will take the Church off God’s path. Just as in the individual Christian’s life, following faithfulness will bring both crosses and blessings. Seeking after one of the blessings instead of faithfulness (or, seeking a created blessing instead of the Creator) will bring judgement. (“LCMS and Demographic Decline,” Gottesdienst: The Journal of Lutheran Liturgy 21, no. 2 [2013]: 13-14)
This judgement, as the article goes on to show, is experienced by God’s people when we stray from His commandments. It can manifest in any number of ways, but it is a noticeable cross felt by God’s people as a direct result of their own unfaithful actions. When we pray, “Forgive us our trespasses,” and “Deliver us from evil,” we are asking God to help us avoid any thought, word, or deed which would cause us to stray. We are asking Him to reveal to us the clear and straight path to take so that we may avoid any pitfalls.
Now, are we against giving frozen children the chance at life? NO! Of course not. All children deserve a chance at life. But the reoccurring theme of our posts on this topic continues to be caution. Just because someone deserves to live does not mean that we should employ any means possible to save them, especially if that involves risking the lives of others, potentially breaking commandments of God, or paying money to an industry which continues to endanger more lives every day. Please understand, our caution is not born from a desire to forget and reject these children because their situation is so complicated but, instead, our caution is born from a desire to love, serve, respect, and protect all of these children in life and death. We believe they are fully human and are, therefore, in need of salvation. We pray for their lives and mourn for their deaths. This burden weighs heavily upon us, and we regularly seek counsel and guidance from others on what we can and should be doing to remedy this mess.
Embryo adoption has been the subject of many late-night talks, prayers and petitions, pastors’ roundtables and academic research for me and Katie. To say that we are against giving these lives a chance to survive is to misunderstand the depth of our love for all new life. We not only want these children to have a chance at full health and vitality outside of the freezer, but we want them to be raised by their biological parents whenever possible, as all children should be; we want them to be raised in Christian homes; we want them to be baptized; we want so many things, and yet sin always seems to get in the way.
It’s possible that we may eventually conclude that embryo adoption is the lesser of two evils, and that it is therefore acceptable when the right conditions are present; however, at this time, we do not have a definitive opinion on this.
To clarify our current position thus far, here’s what we are against:
1. The creation of children in a petri dish outside of the one-flesh union of marriage.
2. The luring of vulnerable couples into believing that IVF is truly the best medical option for them, without explaining that most, if not all, of their children created in this process will die.
3. The use of technology to create multiple children, whom parents have no intention of parenting.
4. The neglect of children, particularly the freezing of them.
5. The deceptive promise to couples that their leftover embryos can be easily adopted by other families.
6. The flippant marketing of embryo adoption as simply another type of adoption that is actually cheaper than the others, with the perk that you get to actually experience pregnancy. This marketing focuses on the desires of the couple and never mentions the deaths that often have to occur for the procedure to take place. Nor does it mention that we should strive to halt the further creation of embryos through the procedure of IVF. It implies that having frozen embryos available for infertile couples is a good thing.
7. The intentional marketing of embryo adoption specifically to the barren by adoption awareness centers, life organizations, and even the Church.
8. The financing of an industry that freezes embryos.
At this point in time (and in addition to the two points mentioned earlier), here’s what we can confidently say we are for when it comes to embryo adoption:
1. Individuals and couples ceasing the creation of embryos through the procedure of IVF.
2. Parents rescuing their own, embryonic children from the freezer.
In conclusion, may I make a plea to our dear readers and to the Church? Please be patient and wait to take action. Be patient with us and all of the Church as we further investigate embryonic adoption and formulate a thorough response to the entire issue. Be patient with your pastors who may not yet have had the time to apply God’s Word to this ethical question. You can help your pastors by inviting them to participate in one of our roundtable discussions. In fact, if you are interested in hosting a roundtable discussion at your own church, please contact us via the Submit a Question page on this website. We would be happy to facilitate such a discussion in your area. We want to help your pastors help you.
Above all, please pray for these tiny children who are frozen. Pray for God’s help and mercy and that His will be done.
* The Embryo Adoption Awareness Center presently reports a 65% failure rate of implantation after an FET.
Rebecca beautifully spoke on KFUO about the reason we are engaging pastors in roundtable discussions on IVF and embryonic adoption. You can listen to Rebecca’s interview here.
Thank you to Rev. Randy Asburry and the His Time Morning Show of KFUO for highlighting this topic!
Dear Pastors,
We could use your help formulating theological responses to ethical points of contention surrounding IVF and embryonic adoption. Would you please join us for a roundtable discussion of these issues and their effects on all of us in the church?
When: Saturday, May 18th, 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
Where: Holy Cross Lutheran Church, Davenport, IA
When: Thursday, May 23rd, 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
Where: Good Shepherd Lutheran Church, Sherman, IL
When: Thursday, June 6th, 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
Where: Village Lutheran Church, St. Louis (Ladue), MO
Please RSVP through the Submit a Question page on this website if you plan to attend, or, if you would like to host a pastors’ roundtable discussion of these issues at your own church, please contact us.
Thank you for your help!
The HRTB Ladies
“The devil is a Pharisee,” my husband said to me the other night. “He makes up fake laws for us to keep.”
The devil tries to make us feel guilty. He waves our sins in front of our faces in an attempt to make us despair, and, when that doesn’t work, he makes up fake laws to confuse and damn us.
You need to have a child, or your life isn’t blessed by God.
You need to foster and adopt a child, or you are not a Christian.
You need to adopt an embryo, or you are not showing the fruits of the Holy Spirit.
You, you, you, you…
That’s what the devil does. He tries to get you to look in the mirror, not at Christ on the cross. He tries to get you to see a lost and condemned creature, not the righteous Christ Who was put upon you in your Baptism.
For, if he can get you to trust in the keeping of Pharisaical laws over Christ’s forgiveness of sinners, then you are damned and he has won.
Question Submitted: Could we please consider that perhaps our church should take action by promoting embryo adoption as a viable alternative to “regular” adoption? Yes, we agree that those frozen embryos are children of God that need a home, so let’s not wait to bicker over how to stop IVF from producing those little lives (which I don’t see as a realistic goal) but let’s turn instead to giving the people responsible for those lives another option besides putting them in the trash…or donating them for research. But the word is not sufficiently out there in the Christian community because we hold back, worried about ______ (fill in the blank).
I, personally, am worried about the issue of neglect.
A good friend once told me that she could be arrested for neglect if she failed in sheltering, protecting, feeding, or taking care of her children. We have laws in place in this country which protect children who are born into this world, but we do not have laws which protect the unborn (those created in a petri dish or growing in a womb).
Another discriminatory fact is that our government enforces a regulatory system, a filter of sorts, which attempts to make sure children up for adoption are placed in safe, thriving, legally-approved homes under the care of experienced, trained, sanctioned parental figures. Our government does not regulate the wombs which wish to adopt an embryo. Private embryo adoptions and those facilitated through fertility clinics have no legal safeguards in place to make sure the womb into which implantation will be attempted is healthy, safe, and thriving. Some embryo adoption agencies require written notice from a physician that no known contraindications to pregnancy exist in an adoptive womb, but, otherwise, there seems to be no concern about the crime of neglect when it comes to these most vulnerable of children.
And these children, at this point in time, have only a 35% chance of implanting after the FET (Frozen Embryo Transfer) through embryo adoption. Remember, a 35% success rate of implantation means 65% of them die in the process.
If we do indeed want to rescue these frozen children, I do not think the best womb for attempting implantation is the one which has yet to bring a child to full health and vitality outside of the womb. I personally think attempting implantation in such a case can be a form of neglect, and that is one reason I have never endorsed embryonic adoption on this site, a site intended for barren women. God in His wisdom has not given some couples the gift of children through their own wombs, and I am fearful of encouraging these couples to adopt embryos. Statistically, at least 65% of them will see the action of their adopting lead to the death of their adopted child. My conscience is burdened by this, and I do not know how to reconcile it.
I know you write to us because you have compassion for the estimated 612,000 embryos currently frozen in our country, and I believe your call to action is a fruit of your wishing for these precious, loved-by-God children to be rescued. Sadly, the embryo adoption industry has chosen to forgo your noble theme of rescue in their marketing and has, instead, turned their advertising campaign towards the unfruitful womb, toward the barren. See for yourself below:
http://www.embryoadoption.org/videos/process-of-embryo-donation-adoption.cfm
This might be part of the reason why the Christian community holds back. How do we promote rescue without simultaneously promoting the growth of an unregulated industry? How do we protect these children without also putting them at risk? How do we save them without killing them? How do we determine who should live and who should die? Who are we to do such things?
Lord, help us!
In the meantime, all I know in good conscience to do is to pray for these children, encourage couples considering embryo adoption to turn to their pastors for counsel and guidance, urge my church and government to keep these children from being made and abused in the first place, and trust in Christ’s mercy.
(There are other reasons which can be applied to your “fill in the blank” – i.e. Biblical support of adoption but not of surrogacy, the potential breaking of the one-flesh union, promoting an action which we know kills some of these children, etc. – and I hope to address some of these reasons in future posts. Thank you for your patience.)
Question Submitted: What do you think of embryonic adoption?
Rebecca and I have spent hours on the phone, on the road, and over our dinner plates talking about this, and here is what we think:
Before we engage in a conversation about embryonic adoption in the Church, we first need to come to an agreement in the Church that embryos should cease being produced and frozen through the procedure of IVF.
In an effort to get that conversation on IVF rolling, we are engaging various LCMS pastors across the Midwest in a series of roundtable discussions on the topic. We’ll check in with you later about embryonic adoption once we’ve listened to what our pastors have to say.
In the meantime, let’s continue to pray for our littlest neighbors frozen in time. Lord, have mercy.